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There were two Sister Lucy's!
This astonishing revelation has been ignored by those who write and study Fatima because they do not believe it, do not want to believe it and most likely cannot believe it.
Nearly nine years ago the history of Fatima grew more mysterious when Dr. Marian Horvat on the TIA website compared pictures of a younger Sister Lucy with pictures available since the 1960s. (here)
Then, in 2013, computerized age progression and regression photos of the two Lucy's were published to further prove and eliminate any doubt that there were two Sister Lucy's. (here) The pictures showed the shape of the face, forehead, eyebrows, eyes, nose, cheeks, mouth, teeth and chin were all different, as was her general appearance and demeanor.
It is realistic to believe that the real Sister Lucy was dead by 1967 when the new Sister Lucy made her inaugural public debut with Paul VI at the 50th anniversary of the first Fatima apparition. Then, it was the first time she played the role of Lucy deceiving the world for nearly 38 years.
This is hard for many to believe because it brings up so many questions, such as the following:
- How could the Catholic Church allow this deception?
- Who trained the new Sister Lucy so she could even fool her relatives? It follows that since there were no rumors or leaks about the possibility of two Sisters Lucy very few people knew about it. The question is: Who did know?
- The imposter Lucy knew the requirements for the consecration of Russia and, initially, backed the real Sister Lucy's version, most likely because by John Paul II also said that the consecration was not performed to the specifications of the Blessed Mother.
Then, she changed her opinion. The question is: Why did Lucy II change her story? She implicitly was admitting she was a liar. Or, did Card. Bertone falsely report that she said that the consecration of Russia had been done as Our Lady asked on March 25, 1984, as reported in The Message of Fatima issued by the Vatican on June 26, 2000?
- What was Lucy II told about the Third Secret in the 1960s before the "Bishop-dressed-in-white" version was released by the Vatican? We have no idea, but, according to what is written in the Message of Fatima, she said that the "Bishop-dressed-in-white" version is the secret and John Paul II was that bishop that was shot in 1981.
- For 16 years starting in 1966, Fr. Alonso was the official archivist for Fatima. He could have interviewed the imposter Lucy many times. He produced 24 volumes of 800 pages containing 5,396 documents. What input, if any, did he receive from Lucy II? The purpose of the Vatican's Message of Fatima was to assure everyone that Fatima belongs to the past. To this day the Vatican refuses to release Fr. Alonso’s 24 volumes as if they contain something that the Vatican is embarrassed to publish.
- Did John Paul II know he was part of a worldwide charade meeting with the imposter Sister Lucy at Fatima in 1982?
Need to silence Sr. Lucy
There are some indications that Sister Lucy might have died as early as 1958.
Before this date, the progressivists were very worried about the entire Fatima issue, because they did not know what the Third Secret contained. This concern became evident after Sister Lucy's meeting with Fr. Fuentes became public in 1958. The transcript of the interview came like a shot out of the blue and sent shock waves through the Vatican.
Sister Lucy could not mention the nucleus of the secret to Fr. Fuentes because it was not yet 1960. However, what she did reveal was likely connected with the secret. "Each person must not only save his own soul, but also all the souls that God has placed on our path." In a devastating statement Lucy said not to look for any help to come from the Holy Father, our Bishops in our Dioceses nor from Religious Congregations. The last 50 years have proven her right.
In 1958 it became very clear that the Vatican wanted Sister Lucy to be silenced. I give the following symptoms:
- The Diocese of Coimbra, where Lucy's Carmelite Convent was located, announced that Sister Lucy would have nothing more to say about Fatima.
- The Papal Nuncio to Lisbon said to John XXIII in December 1958: “It would be wise for you to find out what is in the Third Secret. Sister Lucy has contacted me. She could issue a message to the world. I do not know if that would be opportune...”
- On August 18, 1959, John XXIII read the Third Secret with his confessor and a translator and said - as if he were God and knew the future - "This does not concern my pontificate." It is rather surprising that just two months later, on November 19, 1959, John XXIII granted an audience to the new Bishop of Leira, who declared that they talked a great deal about the seer of Fatima. And he affirmed: “The Holy Office will take care of everything and keep it on the right lines.”
- In 1960, Sister Lucy's confessor for many years from Brazil was not allowed to see her.
- It was announced in Portugal on February 8, 1960, through A.N.I. news agency, citing a very reliable Vatican source, that the “Third Secret will not be revealed and will probably remain forever under absolute seal.” How true! Only John XXIII had the authority to make such a decision.
- Our Lady told Lucy on June 13, 1917: "I will take Jacinta and Francisco shortly; but you will stay here for some time to come. Jesus wants to use you to make Me known and loved. He wishes to establish the devotion to My Immaculate Heart throughout the world."
With Lucy silenced by the Vatican, was it time for God to bring her to Heaven since she could not continue with her desire to promote the devotion to Our Lady? It was on May 13, 1917, at the first apparition that Lucy asked if they would go to Heaven; she was told, yes, she and Jacinta would go to Heaven, but Francisco would need to say many rosaries first. Can you think of any better advice?
- Sister Lucy's warning to Catholics, which she confided to Fr. Fuentes, about not to look for guidance from Church leadership proved to be a prophecy fulfilled. The death of Sister Lucy was a trend that followed other persons involved with Fatima.
- In 1930, Pius XI was requested with the Bishops of the world to consecrate Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary so that there would be peace in the world. He never responded to the request and died in 1939 shortly after the start of World War II, a war he could have prevented.
- From 1944 to 1957 Bishop da Silva of Leiria was entrusted with keeping the Third Secret, which he had ordered Sister Lucy to write. In April of 1957 he sent the secret to Pius XII and by the end of 1957 he was dead.
- Pius XII received the secret in April 1957 and never opened it. He sent religious in the early 1950s to interrogate Sister Lucy about the secret while he could have just invited her to the Vatican. Was he afraid for her safety? Did the progressivists he appointed advise him not to read the secret? He had the secret in his possession for 18 months before his death on October 9, 1958.
The Sister Lucy as described by Fr. Fuentes as being very sad, very pale and emaciated was never seen again. Did she die? Was she killed? According to rumors from the Freemasons the “nun of Fatima” was killed in October 1958. Could this be true?
Continued
This astonishing revelation has been ignored by those who write and study Fatima because they do not believe it, do not want to believe it and most likely cannot believe it.
Sister Lucy 2 who appeared in 1967 with Paul VI had very different features & facial structure
Then, in 2013, computerized age progression and regression photos of the two Lucy's were published to further prove and eliminate any doubt that there were two Sister Lucy's. (here) The pictures showed the shape of the face, forehead, eyebrows, eyes, nose, cheeks, mouth, teeth and chin were all different, as was her general appearance and demeanor.
It is realistic to believe that the real Sister Lucy was dead by 1967 when the new Sister Lucy made her inaugural public debut with Paul VI at the 50th anniversary of the first Fatima apparition. Then, it was the first time she played the role of Lucy deceiving the world for nearly 38 years.
This is hard for many to believe because it brings up so many questions, such as the following:
- How could the Catholic Church allow this deception?
- Who trained the new Sister Lucy so she could even fool her relatives? It follows that since there were no rumors or leaks about the possibility of two Sisters Lucy very few people knew about it. The question is: Who did know?
- The imposter Lucy knew the requirements for the consecration of Russia and, initially, backed the real Sister Lucy's version, most likely because by John Paul II also said that the consecration was not performed to the specifications of the Blessed Mother.
Then, she changed her opinion. The question is: Why did Lucy II change her story? She implicitly was admitting she was a liar. Or, did Card. Bertone falsely report that she said that the consecration of Russia had been done as Our Lady asked on March 25, 1984, as reported in The Message of Fatima issued by the Vatican on June 26, 2000?
- What was Lucy II told about the Third Secret in the 1960s before the "Bishop-dressed-in-white" version was released by the Vatican? We have no idea, but, according to what is written in the Message of Fatima, she said that the "Bishop-dressed-in-white" version is the secret and John Paul II was that bishop that was shot in 1981.
Cards. Bertone and Ratzinger release the supposed third secret to close the message of Fatima
- Did John Paul II know he was part of a worldwide charade meeting with the imposter Sister Lucy at Fatima in 1982?
Need to silence Sr. Lucy
There are some indications that Sister Lucy might have died as early as 1958.
Before this date, the progressivists were very worried about the entire Fatima issue, because they did not know what the Third Secret contained. This concern became evident after Sister Lucy's meeting with Fr. Fuentes became public in 1958. The transcript of the interview came like a shot out of the blue and sent shock waves through the Vatican.
Sister Lucy could not mention the nucleus of the secret to Fr. Fuentes because it was not yet 1960. However, what she did reveal was likely connected with the secret. "Each person must not only save his own soul, but also all the souls that God has placed on our path." In a devastating statement Lucy said not to look for any help to come from the Holy Father, our Bishops in our Dioceses nor from Religious Congregations. The last 50 years have proven her right.
In 1958 it became very clear that the Vatican wanted Sister Lucy to be silenced. I give the following symptoms:
- The Diocese of Coimbra, where Lucy's Carmelite Convent was located, announced that Sister Lucy would have nothing more to say about Fatima.
- The Papal Nuncio to Lisbon said to John XXIII in December 1958: “It would be wise for you to find out what is in the Third Secret. Sister Lucy has contacted me. She could issue a message to the world. I do not know if that would be opportune...”
- On August 18, 1959, John XXIII read the Third Secret with his confessor and a translator and said - as if he were God and knew the future - "This does not concern my pontificate." It is rather surprising that just two months later, on November 19, 1959, John XXIII granted an audience to the new Bishop of Leira, who declared that they talked a great deal about the seer of Fatima. And he affirmed: “The Holy Office will take care of everything and keep it on the right lines.”
The Bishop of Leiria, José Alves Correia da Silva
- It was announced in Portugal on February 8, 1960, through A.N.I. news agency, citing a very reliable Vatican source, that the “Third Secret will not be revealed and will probably remain forever under absolute seal.” How true! Only John XXIII had the authority to make such a decision.
- Our Lady told Lucy on June 13, 1917: "I will take Jacinta and Francisco shortly; but you will stay here for some time to come. Jesus wants to use you to make Me known and loved. He wishes to establish the devotion to My Immaculate Heart throughout the world."
With Lucy silenced by the Vatican, was it time for God to bring her to Heaven since she could not continue with her desire to promote the devotion to Our Lady? It was on May 13, 1917, at the first apparition that Lucy asked if they would go to Heaven; she was told, yes, she and Jacinta would go to Heaven, but Francisco would need to say many rosaries first. Can you think of any better advice?
- Sister Lucy's warning to Catholics, which she confided to Fr. Fuentes, about not to look for guidance from Church leadership proved to be a prophecy fulfilled. The death of Sister Lucy was a trend that followed other persons involved with Fatima.
- In 1930, Pius XI was requested with the Bishops of the world to consecrate Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary so that there would be peace in the world. He never responded to the request and died in 1939 shortly after the start of World War II, a war he could have prevented.
- From 1944 to 1957 Bishop da Silva of Leiria was entrusted with keeping the Third Secret, which he had ordered Sister Lucy to write. In April of 1957 he sent the secret to Pius XII and by the end of 1957 he was dead.
- Pius XII received the secret in April 1957 and never opened it. He sent religious in the early 1950s to interrogate Sister Lucy about the secret while he could have just invited her to the Vatican. Was he afraid for her safety? Did the progressivists he appointed advise him not to read the secret? He had the secret in his possession for 18 months before his death on October 9, 1958.
The Sister Lucy as described by Fr. Fuentes as being very sad, very pale and emaciated was never seen again. Did she die? Was she killed? According to rumors from the Freemasons the “nun of Fatima” was killed in October 1958. Could this be true?
Continued
Posted November 27, 2015
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