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Paris at War, Lucys’ Ratio & Chastisement
Miscellaneous Questions about the Two Sr. Lucys
I respectfully put some questions to Marian Horvat, not in a spirit of contention, but seeking reasonable answers in order to uncover the truth, regarding Sister Lucy I and Sister Lucy II. Firstly, if Sr. Lucy I was replaced by an impersonator c1960, what became of THE Sr. Lucy? Did she continue to live in the Carmel. Was this known by her fellow Sisters, all under strict orders of silence? Did she die? If so, was a death certificate issued, and her death registered with the local authorities? Were her relatives part of this silencing? If not, did they not realise that they were not speaking to the true Sr. Lucy? If on the other hand the real Sr. Lucy was permitted to speak with them, would she not indicate to them the intrigue surrounding her? If the Novus Ordo is invalid or harmful, would she not have warned her priest nephew of it?
If it was a false Sr. Lucy at the visit to Fatima of Pope Paul VI, why did she urgently wish to speak with him, only to be rebuffed? Surely he had nothing to fear from speaking with an impersonator. Why a false Lucy would show reluctance to attend the Papal visit of John Paul II, and did so only under compulsion? Why a false Lucy would show concern about the wording of the consecration? And why would she admit that she was unable to speak of these things without the explicit permission of Rome?
Lots of WHYS here, but they are NOT traps. Following the advice of St.Augustine, I ask them only to draw out the truth, which as you know, sets us free.
Viva Cristo Rey,
E.S.
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The Editor responds:
Dear Mr. E.S.,
Thank you for sending me your questions. They reveal a sincere concern about the truth.
By the ensemble of your message, I can see that you have not followed the entire controversy that the thesis of the two Sister Lucys raised on our website. So, I invite you to read the questions already posed and the answers provided, many of which may put some of your concerns to rest.
You may find an index of these topics here.
If some of your questions are not answered, do not hesitate to write me again specifying what particular point I could help you with.
Cordially,
A.S. Guimarães
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Eye-Tooth Ratio Applied to the Two Lucys
As suggested by one of your readers, I applied the eye-tooth ratio method to the two Sister Lucys.
Please read the conclusions I came up with in the article I posted in my blog (reproduced below),
Peace,
Frank Rega
The Tradition in Action website has published a series of articles investigating the possibility that the Fatima visionary Sister Lucy was at one point replaced by a double, in order to silence her conservative voice, and to further the progressivist agenda of Vatican II. One of their articles presents a series of photos comparing historical photos of the "real" Sister Lucy to more recent photos of the alleged "double."
Recently, one of the website's readers sent them an email that mentions a video which purportedly shows a reliable method of comparing the photos of two people to help determine if they are really of the same person. Like most such approaches, it is not infallible, but it can indicate with high probability if the persons are not the same.
In Tradition In Action's "People are Commenting" page of February 9, 2017, you can read the email from "G.A." regarding the "eye-tooth" method of determining whether two photographs are of the same person. The email links to this video on YouTube which explains how to use this method. Basically, it is based on the distance between the pupils of the eyes of a person, and the distance from the eyes to the tips of the upper teeth. These features are permanently embedded in the bone structure of the upper face. Therefore, any adult should always have a constant ratio between the two distances.
Using the pictures above from their web page on the two Sister Lucy's, I zoomed the page to 170% to get larger pictures. Then I calculated the following measurements:
- The Sister Lucy on the left, 25 mm. between the eyes, and 36 mm. to the tip of the upper teeth. This gives a ratio of 1.44.
- For the Sister Lucy on the right, 30 mm. between the eyes, and 36 mm. to the tip of the upper teeth. This gives a ratio of 1.2.
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Will the Chastisement Come in 2017?
I can’t help but wonder if during the year of 2017 the Conciliar or the Novus Ordo Church will possibly suffer a chastisement from Heaven.
A reason I think this is: during 2017 we have the 500 anniversary of the Protestant revolt and the 100th anniversary of the Fatima revelations to the 3 seers. I do not know if the 500 anniversary of the Protestant revolt ties in with the 100th anniversary of Fatima, and I’m focusing on the 100 anniversary of Fatima, not Martin Luther’s rebellion against the Catholic Church.
To me, there seems parallels to France in 1789 and the Conciliar or the Novus Ordo Church in 2017. I have this quote, which Sister Magaret Mary Alacoque told King Louis XIV that Jesus wanted the country of France consecrated to His Most Sacred Heart, which he did not accomplish, nor any succeeding French Kings.
Then on June 17, 1789, (the Feast of the Sacred Heart) exactly one hundred years to the day from when Saint Magaret Mary had written down the great designs of Heaven for the King of France, the Third Estate rose up and proclaimed itself a National Assembly, stripping King Louis XVI of his legislative power.
With these French events as a background, later this year will be the 100th anniversary of the Fatima revelations where Our Lady requesting the Pope together with all the Bishops to consecrate Russia to her Immaculate Heart. The Popes, from 1917 until now, have not obeyed our Lady’s request, which is comparable to King Louis XIV and the subsequent French monarchs ignoring Sister Magaret Mary Alacoque request.
What makes 2017 possibly a noteworthy year, I quote from your posting under Special Devotions, Fatima and the Last Times Remedies:
Our Lord voiced His displeasure to Sister Lucia in 1931: “Make it known to My ministers that since they follow the example of the King of France in delaying the execution of My request, that they will follow him into misfortune.” In 1793 Louis XVI was forced to relinquish his royal throne to the enemy. He suffered a period of imprisonment in the Tower of the Templars, and a violent death by guillotine.
Could there be a duplication as to the devastation and catastrophe that happened to France after 100 years of ignoring the request from God that something similar will happen to the Conciliar or the Novus Ordo Church in 2017?
What rings within my mind, “It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.”
Dominus vobiscum – the Lord be with you
R.T.
Posted February 14, 2017
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This is already happening here in the United States with the left.
Watch this footage in central Paris – migrant gangs at war with Paris police. Fires, chaos, violence - but the major media is silent.
No wonder there are nationalist anti-immigrant reactions everywhere in Europe today.
T.H.